Excellence in government service interviews

The Excellence in Government Service Project consists of twenty-four audio cassette recordings of interviews that were conducted by senior federal public servant M. A. Cranswick in 1986. This project was undertaken in an attempt to expand on the research accomplished by Thomas J. Peters & Robert H. Waterman in their work "In Search of Excellence" and move beyond the private sector. This resulted in the interviewing of a number of senior managers in the civil and military services of the UK and US administrations. Interviewees were asked to talk about the notion of "excellence in government service" based on their own experiences. Although a journal or book was planned, this did not eventuate and so the interviews have never been published in any form. The audio recordings were donated to UNSW Archives by his son, Guy Cranswick.

A list of the interviewees appears below. The interviews are available for researchers to access in audio format only, as the interviews have not been transcribed. As other access conditions do apply, please contact the Archives for further information.

• Interviewee Name

  Mark A. Abramson

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Director, the Centre for Excellence in Government (US)

  Date of Interview

  21 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/7B

• Interviewee Name

  William J. Anderson

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Director, General Government Division US General Accounting Office

  Date of Interview

  10 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/2A

• Interviewee Name

  Hon Richard L. Armitage

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Assistant Secretary, International Security Affairs, Department of Defence (US)

  Date of Interview

  25 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/12A

• Interviewee Name

  Nicholas Baring

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Chairman, City Capital Markets Committee (UK)

  Date of Interview

  10 October 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/22B

• Interviewee Name

  Rear Admiral D. B. Bathurst

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Director-General, Naval Manpower & Training (UK)

  Date of Interview

  2 October 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/18A

• Interviewee Name

  M. C. Blair

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Under-Secretary, Head of the Courts & Legal Services Group, Lord Chancellor's Department (UK)

  Date of Interview

  2 October 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/18B

• Interviewee Name

  Norman A. Carlson

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Director, Federal Bureau of Prisons (US)

  Date of Interview

  15 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/4A

• Interviewee Name

  Diane E. Clark

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Executive Director, Treasury Executive Institute (US)

  Date of Interview

  14 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/1B

• Interviewee Name

  Susan M. Collins

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Staff Director, Senate Sub-Committee on Governmental Affairs (US)

  Date of Interview

  10 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/2B

• Interviewee Name

  Dr James Colvard

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Deputy Director-Designate, US Office of Personnel Management

  Date of Interview

  11 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/3A

• Interviewee Name

  D. A. Dawkins

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Associate Director, Operations & Services, Bank of England (UK)

  Date of Interview

  7 October 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/22A

• Interviewee Name

  Carol Dineen

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Associate Director for Management, Office of Management and Budget (US)

  Date of Interview

  23 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/10B

• Interviewee Name

  J. M. Goose

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Assistant Secretary, Criminal Division, Home Office (UK)

  Date of Interview

  8 October 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/23A

• Interviewee Name

  N. B. J. Gurney

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Civil Service Commissioner (UK)

  Date of Interview

  3 October 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/19B

• Interviewee Name

  R. M. Hastie-Smith CB

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Deputy Under Secretary of State (Civilian Management), Ministry of Defence (UK)

  Date of Interview

  1 October 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/13B

• Interviewee Name

  G. A. Hosker

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Deputy Treasury Solicitor, Treasury Solicitor's Office (UK)

  Date of Interview

  7 October 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/21B

• Interviewee Name

  J. Hutton

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Senior Course Tutor, Henley - The Management College (UK)

  Date of Interview

  24 September 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/14B

• Interviewee Name

  Kate Jenkins

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Under-Secretary, Head of the Efficiency Unit, The Cabinet Office (UK)

  Date of Interview

  30 September 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/16B

• Interviewee Name

  Professor Robert A. Leone

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University (US)

  Date of Interview

  13 August 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/12B

• Interviewee Name

  Professor A. Leo Levin

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Director, Federal Judicial Centre (US)

  Date of Interview

  21 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/8A

• Interviewee Name

  Peter G. McCabe

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Assistant Director Programs, Administrative Office of the US Courts

  Date of Interview

  16 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/5A

• Interviewee Name

  Tony McCann

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Assistant Secretary for Management & Budget, Department of Health & Human Services (US)

  Date of Interview

  9 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/1A

• Interviewee Name

  Robert S. McNamara

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Secretary of Defence (US)

  Date of Interview

  24 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/11A

• Interviewee Name

  S. C. T. Matheson

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Director of Information Technology, Board of Inland Revenue (UK)

  Date of Interview

  6 October 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/20B

• Interviewee Name

  James H. Mills, Jr

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Navy for Surface Warfare, The Pentagon (US)

  Date of Interview

  22 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/9A

• Interviewee Name

  Stanley E. Morris

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Director, US Marshals Service

  Date of Interview

  17 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/6A

• Interviewee Name

  Anne Mueller CB

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Second Permanent Secretary, Management and Personnel Office, The Cabinet Office (UK)

  Date of Interview

  1 October 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/14A

• Interviewee Name

  Isabel M. Nisbet

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Deputy Director, Top Management Programme and Policy Planning Manager, Civil Service College (UK)

  Date of Interview

  8 October 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/24A

• Interviewee Name

  S. M. Orchard

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Administrator, Royal Courts of Justice (UK)

  Date of Interview

  29 September 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/15A

• Interviewee Name

  David Owen

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Public Relations and Investor Relations Manager, Royal Ordinance Factories (UK)

  Date of Interview

  6 October 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/20A

• Interviewee Name

  Dr Rudolph G. Penner

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Director, Congressional Budget Office (US)

  Date of Interview

  23 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/10A

• Interviewee Name

  Air Vice Marshal M. J. Pilkington CBE, RAF

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Director of Training, Royal Air Force (UK)

  Date of Interview

  30 September 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/17A

• Interviewee Name

  C. Ramsden

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Principal, Training Division, Management & Personnel Office (UK)

  Date of Interview

  8 October 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/23B

• Interviewee Name

  Oliver B. Revell

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Executive Assistant Director Investigations, Federal Bureau of Investigations (US)

  Date of Interview

  22 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/8B

• Interviewee Name

  Sue Richards

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Research Fellow, Institute of Public Sector Management, London Business School (UK)

  Date of Interview

  29 September 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/15B

• Interviewee Name

  Elliot L. Richardson

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Lawyer (formerly Attorney-General, Secretary Health Education Welfare, Secretary of Defence, Secretary of Commerce (US))

  Date of Interview

  24 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/11B

• Interviewee Name

  Vice Admiral James A Sagerholm (ret)

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Chairman, Chief of Naval Operations Commission on Personal Excellence and National Security (US)

  Date of Interview

  17 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/6B

• Interviewee Name

  W. L. St Clair

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Assistant Secretary, Joint Management Unit, Management & Personnel Office (UK)

  Date of Interview

  6 October 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/21A

• Interviewee Name

  D. P. Savill

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Deputy Secretary, British Telecom (UK)

  Date of Interview

  9 October 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/24B

• Interviewee Name

  Major General K. Spacie OBE

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Director of Army Training (UK)

  Date of Interview

  30 September 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/17B

• Interviewee Name

  Roger L. Sperry

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Senior GAO Consultant, Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs (US)

  Date of Interview

  18 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/7A

• Interviewee Name

  Ronald I Spiers

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Under-Secretary for Management, Department of State (US)

  Date of Interview

  15 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/4B

• Interviewee Name

  Robert A. Stone

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense (Installations), The Pentagon (US)

  Date of Interview

  14 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/3B

• Interviewee Name

  T. C. L. Taylor

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Joint Deputy Principal, Henley - The Management College (UK)

  Date of Interview

  24 September 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/13A

• Interviewee Name

  D. J. Trevelyan CB

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  First Civil Service Commissioner, Civil Service Commission (UK)

  Date of Interview

  3 October 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/19A

• Interviewee Name

  Lieutenant General D. A. Vesser

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Director (Plans & Policy), The Pentagon (US)

  Date of Interview

  24 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/9B

• Interviewee Name

  W. Lawrence Wallace

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Assistant Attorney-General for Administration, Department of Justice (US)

  Date of Interview

  16 July 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/5B

• Interviewee Name

  John Wybrew

  Interviewee's Position At Time of Interview

  Policy Unit, The Prime Minister's Office (UK)

  Date of Interview

  30 September 1986

  Archives Reference

  08/243/16A